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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  Wallhugger60 on Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:36 pm

Cool, think I'll run the Solstice too. I think I ran better with the car that doesn't handle as well (to me anyway...understeer lol).

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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  Forgetful on Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:04 pm

Just rocked a wicked race at the Glen in the Solsti with Rooster. We finished 1-2 in class!

The first handful of laps was a battle between the fast solsti and the mid pack/un-q'd but fast mx-5s. We were fast enough they couldn't get up to pass us, but slow enough they'd be diving at us mid apex, only to come up short on the drag to the next corner. At one point I was three wide with a Sosltice and a MX-5 on the sole of the boot. #intenseface

Anyways, once it settled down it was me leading roo. I bobbled the bus stop once and roo passed me, but I got him back on the run up to the same corner next lap. We fought back and forth over tenths, and I almost gave it to him missing a gear shift on the run to the checkered flag, but I finihsed 1st in class for 122 pts, 0 incidents for +.17 and a good chunk of iR for a strong SOF race. What a Face

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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  group44 on Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:56 am

[accent] Three wide, you're in the middle! [/accent] Shocked
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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  group44 on Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:39 pm

Absolutely dreadful at staying alive, but Mosport is a blast to drive What a Face
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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  vkaifh on Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:52 pm

This week I'll participate in the Grand Touring Cup with the Solstice. I already did quite a few laps at Okayama and have currently a best lap of 1'49.7 (opt. lap of 1'49.1). With a bit of luck I should have my c-license at the end of the week. Very Happy

Slightly off topic: I start to realize that not all series fit my schedule and I'm wondering what to do in the new season. I definitely want to stick to one series for the whole season.
I'm thinking of giving the Spec Racer Ford Challenge a try. Has anyone already driven that car? Is it fun or painful? Question

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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  clacksman on Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:49 pm

vkaifh wrote:I'm thinking of giving the Spec Racer Ford Challenge a try. Has anyone already driven that car? Is it fun or painful? Question

Painful to start, but if you stick with it and don't jump in anything else it'll still be fun because (well, if) you crash less than the average guy.

Maybe see what Season 4 schedules all look like before you decide (some may be expensive on tracks).

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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  vkaifh on Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:58 pm

clacksman wrote:Painful to start, but if you stick with it and don't jump in anything else it'll still be fun because (well, if) you crash less than the average guy.

Maybe see what Season 4 schedules all look like before you decide (some may be expensive on tracks).

yeah, from what I read that car has to be driven differently than the MX-5 or Solstice and I can easily imagine a very painful beginning. Shocked

I definitely wait until the schedule is out; only then I decide and go shopping. The SRF is at Charlotte one week from now; I'll give it a try then if it doesn't totally frustrate me on the first few laps. bounce

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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  Forgetful on Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:14 pm

They say driving the SRF and the Skippy will make you better in all other cars, however driving other cars will not help you with the SRF and Skippy. I'll be running some SRF these last few weeks of S3.

I've been running 4 series this season, the Solstice in the iRNC and GTC, and the Mustang in its one make series and the Grand Am series.

I spent 60-70$ at a time and I have collected most road courses already. Buy tracks. Then a lot of stuff will be accessible.

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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  vkaifh on Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:26 am

I got beaten up pretty bad at my first race in the Grand Touring Cup; a combination of bad driving on my part Embarassed , bad luck like cars spinning out of control in front of me Sad and reckless driving by others Evil or Very Mad .

I hope it wasn't an indication of what's to come for the rest of the week. Neutral

Definitely still have to get used to the bigger fields and increased traffic; gotta learn to keep doors shut to avoid being dive bombed.

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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  Forgetful on Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:58 am

Sounds like early week eager beavers trying to get some action in on a base content track they think they know (half of it anyway). I've had mixed results with the GTCup, but much better lately. It's especially nice when you Q well and have 10 MX-5s between you and the next Solstice.

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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  vkaifh on Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:25 am

2nd race went a lot better, I stayed incident free and even more important took the win cheers

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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  group44 on Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:43 am

vkaifh wrote:2nd race went a lot better, I stayed incident free and even more important took the win cheers

Seems to be becoming a trend, great job vk Exclamation
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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  Forgetful on Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:04 pm

Vk on his way to 3k cheers

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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  vkaifh on Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:42 am

I kinda 'cheated' my way into a license upgrade by doing a few TTs this morning. Hey, it's not my fault that the Grand Touring Cup is only having races every other day Rolling Eyes

Anyway, I'm now a proud Class C license holder. I exptected my SR to drop by at least one point but to my surprise I went from D-4.99 to C-4.60. Well, I take it. Very Happy

I like the C-class yellow much better than the D-class orange Razz

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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  SpecMiata-JSW on Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:55 am

vkaifh wrote:I kinda 'cheated' my way into a license upgrade by doing a few TTs this morning. Hey, it's not my fault that the Grand Touring Cup is only having races every other day Rolling Eyes

Anyway, I'm now a proud Class C license holder. I exptected my SR to drop by at least one point but to my surprise I went from D-4.99 to C-4.60. Well, I take it. Very Happy

I like the C-class yellow much better than the D-class orange Razz

I like the B class green. It compliments my eyes. What a Face

Anyone for Stangs at Road Atlanta tonight? Practice and possibly Q -> race?
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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  Forgetful on Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:05 am

I might make the Mustangs race on the RATL What a Face

Also, blue works for me

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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  clacksman on Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:56 pm

vkaifh wrote:Anyway, I'm now a proud Class C license holder. I exptected my SR to drop by at least one point but to my surprise I went from D-4.99 to C-4.60. Well, I take it. Very Happy

4.99 is the max SR that will show; you had more (5.60).

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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  SpecMiata-JSW on Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:07 pm

Forgetful wrote:I might make the Mustangs race on the RATL What a Face

Also, blue works for me

I am going to watch the entrants this week and try to find two races that split. If I want to make the top 10 overall I need at least one more race to split and it looks like I can only race on Monday night next week.

^Just an FYI in case you see me on and assume I'll be joining the next race.

##Seeing as how there are three entrants registered 7 minutes from the start doesn't make the 9:15 race seem so optimal. Sad
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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  SpecMiata-JSW on Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:10 pm

I kind of wish they had an "estimated SOF ticker" based on the registered drivers, so you could decide if you wanted to hop in or join the next one.

Very Happy Maybe I'll drop the staff an email and see if they've ever thought of that.
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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  Forgetful on Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:56 am

Didn't get home in time to race, so I'll probably be running the stang on Saturday.

I don't think the SOF manipulating is something that the staff had intended to be the normal practice, and I'm not a fan of it. They way it functions gives me enough of a reason to discount the accuracy of the championship standings.

It seems like having that SOF ticker would only serve to provide people with a reason not to race, which is counter-productive.

What they should do is develop a time based scoring system where the fastest overall times earn the highest championship points.

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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  HWKII on Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:07 am

Forgetful wrote:Didn't get home in time to race, so I'll probably be running the stang on Saturday.

I don't think the SOF manipulating is something that the staff had intended to be the normal practice, and I'm not a fan of it. They way it functions gives me enough of a reason to discount the accuracy of the championship standings.

It seems like having that SOF ticker would only serve to provide people with a reason not to race, which is counter-productive.

What they should do is develop a time based scoring system where the fastest overall times earn the highest championship points.

Similar thoughts - SOF-'gaming' is something that I gather the Developers is more a necessary evil than something that they want to encourage. Agree with Forgetful that a time based scoring system would be better, or some kind of hybrid system. Opponents of a time based system will say "Overall time for 2 better drivers fighting it out over 30 laps is going to make them appear slower than someone who goes out and runs away from the front and they shouldn't be penalized." but it does seem to be that a laddered system based on iRating would solve a lot, while introducing other problems... study duh! study duh! study

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Or, how about a "+1" system like people propose for College football - a season to 'play in' to a final tournament in which the best single field worth of drivers compete over the course of X weeks where the winner of that single field is champion.

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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  Forgetful on Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:25 am

I'm sure it's been suggested before, and there are likely points we're missing, but to continue down that path... I mean, they already have a time-points system for TTs, so the formulas exist.

Time based scoring would encourage safer driving because the concept of 'it's faster not to mix it up' is already a major factor in any kind of racing. Bringing it to the forefront might make more people realize that.

But anyway, it's still pretty fun the way it is and I am interested enough in the championships. I'm just fulfilling the race car driver stereotype of having a prepared excuse. I'm in the hunt in several of my serieseses, and I feel like it's a pretty decent representation of my overall skill. I'm not blazing fast, but I'm consistent and determined enough to perform well on a regular basis. I can also thug it up if I have to.

Anyway, came to post ttosay the fanatac is back and everything is working the way it should. I can now run my pedals independent from the wheel so my ABS FFB will go to the brake pedal now. Squeeeeee! What a Face

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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  HWKII on Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:30 pm

Forgetful wrote:But anyway, it's still pretty fun the way it is and I am interested enough in the championships. I'm just fulfilling the race car driver stereotype of having a prepared excuse. I'm in the hunt in several of my serieseses...

I agree, precious... GOLLUM!

Forgetful wrote:Anyway, came to post ttosay the fanatac is back and everything is working the way it should. I can now run my pedals independent from the wheel so my ABS FFB will go to the brake pedal now. Squeeeeee! What a Face

cheers ... Fanatec is probably going on the Christmas list... Expect many questions!

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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  SpecMiata-JSW on Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:06 pm

After further thought, you guys are right that SOF farming is the wrong way to approach the series. At the end of season 1 I knew that Sunday nights 7:15 and 9:15 races were crazy high SOF, which pulled me up from 20 something overall to 10th in the championship, it was awesome scoring 130+ points in every race.

This season I've driven better, faster, and more consistent, and I'm in 12th with nowhere to go. I see the races that split and they are on 3:15 at Monday afternoon and Sunday afternoons...dammit man, I have to work and I have a kid, so those times aren't options.

I guess it's just luck to where you live and how your schedule works out to if you get nice scoring events. I looked at the results from the two races last night, and I would have dominated and won, but wouldn't have made any jumps in the points system. Evil or Very Mad

The system isn't perfect, but it's still fun. Very Happy
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Re: Season 3 - Starts 30/07/12

Post  vkaifh on Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:42 pm

I wish I had your problems; if I get into a higher split I simply won't win bounce

My iRating is way too high for my ability anyway, I guess participating in SRF races will correct that pretty quick. Cool

As to the scoring system I believe nothing is perfect but whatever it is it has to encourage to race a lot to keep participation high. I read in some thread on the iRacing forum that they plan to change the scoring and count only the 25% highest scored races instead of 50%. For me that goes into the right direction, lets hope it was not just a rumor. Shocked

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