Re: 2013 Season 1 - Starts Jan 28 2013

[Rooster722]

I generally run my SRF brakes below 60, usually 58.5 in fact. Is that weird? I feel like you can stop a lot faster that way, you just have to be a little careful when turning in with the brakes applied.

That is actually the first thing I do with any tune I've tried in the SRF. Any higher than 60 and I have a (more) difficult time braking. What's interesting to me is how others I've talked to feel the exact opposite is true and tend to stay well into the 60's Different strokes and all.

Edit: Tree'd

I can be running a straight line, wheel perfectly straight, and at any significant speed the car will spin out upon even the lightest, smoothest application of the brakes unless I keep my foot on the throttle. It doesn't matter if I run the bias at 58, or 75.

Sounds awfully fishy to me. I've never had any problem keeping the SRF straight under straight-line braking. Every once in awhile I'll push the braking point too far, and then when they lock up it might decide to spin, but that (ideally) doesn't happen too often. I haven't played with any of the data analysis tools, but it might be worth looking at that to see if your locking up a wheel (assuming the data has wheel speed...)

Thanks all for trying to help. It sounds like the SRF is fairly stable under braking for all of you, so I've got to have some sort of tech issue. I love the way the car handles, other than the braking, so I sure hope to figure it out.

[Forgetful]

Just ripped off a victory in the Jetta at Daytona. On pole. Was pressured the whole time by and Aussie bloke but managed to defend all attempts, twice making good use of lapped traffic, holding a defensive line from the bus stop to T1 almost every lap and one sweet defense where I held the inside in to the bus stop and delayed my turn in enough to park him, breaking the draft with two to go. 0 incident and a flag to flag win ain't a bad way to kick off the official 2013 season

[SpecMiata-JSW]

How about the Skip at Jefferson Reverse? LOL!! Holy cow.

You take a few weeks off from driving the Skip, then they put it at Jefferson Reverse...I feel like I'm starting from scratch all over again, even after 30 minutes of practice. It looks like I'll be on tonight to find my consistency again.

[HWKII]

How about the Skip at Jefferson Reverse?

You evil, evil man... No!

[RIP_Welsh_Don]

How about the Skip at Jefferson Reverse? LOL!! Holy cow.

You take a few weeks off from driving the Skip, then they put it at Jefferson Reverse...I feel like I'm starting from scratch all over again, even after 30 minutes of practice. It looks like I'll be on tonight to find my consistency again.

Lol, it was a tricky one to learn for sure, but I found the ARB at 8 helped me out. Got a qualifying run in tonight and ran 3 races too. Race 1, got a very light tap at the left rear on lap 1 which spun me in the middle of the track and of course I got collected! Ouch! Finished 6th in the end. All 3 races I encountered the fastest qualifier, Kenneth O'Keefe and in the last 2, the second fastest qualifier joined us, David Lawrence3, . Took a 3rd and 4th respectively, with only 1 incident in the last 2 races combined!

Really enjoying the Skippy and looking forward to running some races with you John

[HWKII]

For teh lulz I decided to try my hand a Street Stock at Charlotte.

In lap 1, I found out that with the changes to the tires/physics/something(?) that the Street Stock is suddenly extremely prone to a slide. Charlotte used to be, "Food down, keep planted, turn left" and what I drove tonight was so very different. Wondering if it was some setting, but I could not even nudge the wheel at full throttle without inducing a hilarious spin. Happened twice, but never collected anyone or any walls.


Back to road racing, that Oval stuff is dangerous!

[SpecMiata-JSW]

How about the Skip at Jefferson Reverse? LOL!! Holy cow.

You take a few weeks off from driving the Skip, then they put it at Jefferson Reverse...I feel like I'm starting from scratch all over again, even after 30 minutes of practice. It looks like I'll be on tonight to find my consistency again.

Lol, it was a tricky one to learn for sure, but I found the ARB at 8 helped me out. Got a qualifying run in tonight and ran 3 races too. Race 1, got a very light tap at the left rear on lap 1 which spun me in the middle of the track and of course I got collected! Ouch! Finished 6th in the end. All 3 races I encountered the fastest qualifier, Kenneth O'Keefe and in the last 2, the second fastest qualifier joined us, David Lawrence3, . Took a 3rd and 4th respectively, with only 1 incident in the last 2 races combined!

Really enjoying the Skippy and looking forward to running some races with you John

Looking forward to racing with you too! I wasn't able to hop on last night, but plan on getting some practice in tonight. I need to get some time in before I jump into a race. It seems like I always have trouble getting up to speed at Jefferson, I think it's an autocross thing; I stink at autoX in real life too.

[Forgetful]

Ummm... pretty sure the double yellow at Daytona is only there for NASCABs and their cohorts. If it's the road course, apron is legal track, right?

[Rooster722]

I just posted the fix for my SRF braking issue in the tech thread. I called iracing tech support this morning and Susan Flint from tech support sent me a potential solution that worked out. all I had to do was go into windows and delete the controls.cfg file in the iRacing folder, and then recalibrate my G27. I've lived with this issue since the very beginning, so I am happy to finally find a solution, but also sorta ticked at myself for just assuming it was a problem with my driving and enduring the frustration for 6 months.

I have to thank G44 as well, he smashed his head against a cinder block wall as well, just trying to help me figure out what was going on. As it turns out, I was running the SRF with no brake bias adjustment even though the setting values would change in the garage. Apparently , I was running the equivalent of a 45% brake bias at all times, no matter where the bias value was set. I'm thinking this issue had to affect me somewhat with all the cars, at least the ones with brake bias settings. The ABS cars were masking the problem to a certain extent, I would guess. We'll find out.

[SpecMiata-JSW]

^ You are going to turn into the mega alien now!

[timneyb]

I just posted the fix for my SRF braking issue in the tech thread. I called iracing tech support this morning and Susan Flint from tech support sent me a potential solution that worked out. all I had to do was go into windows and delete the controls.cfg file in the iRacing folder, and then recalibrate my G27. I've lived with this issue since the very beginning, so I am happy to finally find a solution, but also sorta ticked at myself for just assuming it was a problem with my driving and enduring the frustration for 6 months.

I have to thank G44 as well, he smashed his head against a cinder block wall as well, just trying to help me figure out what was going on. As it turns out, I was running the SRF with no brake bias adjustment even though the setting values would change in the garage. Apparently , I was running the equivalent of a 45% brake bias at all times, no matter where the bias value was set. I'm thinking this issue had to affect me somewhat with all the cars, at least the ones with brake bias settings. The ABS cars were masking the problem to a certain extent, I would guess. We'll find out.

How the crap did you get this far with effectively only the handbrake?

Glad it's fixed.

[group44]

I have to thank G44 as well, he smashed his head against a cinder block wall as well, just trying to help me figure out what was going on.

I'm just glad that you can finally use the brakes for more than just a spin initiator

^ You are going to turn into the mega alien now!

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[SpecMiata-JSW]

In case anyone is interested, I'm hosting a 2 hour practice session at Sebring in the Skippy. Summint Point Jefferson is making me nuts, so I want to try the car at a real track.

[vkaifh]

joining now, but only for maybe 45 minutes. Very happy to get away from Jefferson Reverse

[HWKII]

Forgive me Jefferson Reverse, for I have spoke ill of you in the past and today I have been shown the error of my ways. I am by no means fast there (56.1XX was my best lap, as compared to some guys doing 53s... ) but I started to get a feel for the Skippy tonight, and even feel like I was coming to grips with those incredible decreasing radius turns at JR.

Skippy seems to like it when you blend brake and throttle together, quite a bit. Or at least, I found that was a good way to keep it stable. I... don't know if that makes sense, but it's what I found to help.

Running 24lb PSI all around, with +1/+1 perch and 8 ARB with 61% brake balance (ran most of the evening at 58% but felt too twitchy, went safe). The car seemed to be fairly neutral.

Picked up the 6 tracks I was missing from this season's Skippy series. Gonna make a go of it!

[RIP_Welsh_Don]

Wow Rooster! How you were even able to make a lap is beyond me!! Lol. Now we can all look out

I've not been doing too much this week after a few races in the Skippy, but did manage a session in the MClaren at Spa yielding a best lap of 2'20.9, but no idea if the tune is worthy or not. I now have Watkins Glen, so will give the SRF a run out soon and continue to learn the clutch and Heel/Toe technique too.

I'll probably run another race or two in the Skip at Jefferson Reverse before the change and then I'll need to buy the circuits for the rest of the Skippy season and learn quickly!! Lol.

I'm sure we'll all get together on track soon.
Nige.

[vkaifh]

after only 2 minutes at Sebring in Spec's hosted session it was clear to me that I skip the Skippy at Jefferson Reverse. The car is so much more fun at Sebring.
I just can't get the car under control at Jefferson Reverse. Except for turn 1 the car does something different every lap in all the other turns. There is no way I could do a race w/o picking up 10 incidents. I don't mind losing my iRating, way too high anyway, but I'd like to keep my safety rating in place.
I don't blame the car or track, I blame myself for it; I simply accept defeat (for this week).

[SpecMiata-JSW]

I'm with you VK. I can run two or three :53.s in a row, then I die a hot fiery virtual death somewhere on the circuit...but rarely the same place twice. I can't put a finger on what my consistency challenges are with this circuit, except that I think I use a little less throttle under braking then most, and it's really showing here. I'm just hanging on for dear virtual life, and there is no way I could complete 25 laps in a row without expiring somewhere.

Every time I went to JR I found myself more frustrated then having fun...I actually began doubting my talent in the Skip, which is why I hosted the Sebring session last night; I had to see if the car was different, or if I simply wasn't gelling with the track. Thankfully my old Skip returned to me at Sebring and I fell in love again.

I've only raced JR once, and that was because I thought I had to early on in the sim. I just can't seem to get a grip on the place.

Good luck to those who race there, and if you can be consistent and quick, you are doing something right. Keep it up every track from here on out will be a breeze!

Peace out!

[vkaifh]

I did some more practice laps in the Skippy at Sebring

I'm now at a best of 1'19.8; that's 1.3s slower than the reference lap posted in the Skippy forum on iRacing. I saw a 1'19.0 from Spec last night. I certainly can live with my pace here

More important I can run lap after lap with no incident and stay in the 1'20s

Even more important I finally enjoy playing iRacing again

[HWKII]

More important I can run lap after lap with no incident and stay in the 1'20s

This is what I like most about the Skippy. I feel like if I can be 2-3 seconds off the pace, I can still do well if I drive consistently and cleanly in traffic. The guys I saw doing 53.5s last night at Jefferson Reverse were good in traffic most of the time, but I caught a lot of them up because of their tendency to fly right off the track.

I'll say this for that little car, you will learn to be smooth.

[SpecMiata-JSW]

I did some more practice laps in the Skippy at Sebring

I'm now at a best of 1'19.8; that's 1.3s slower than the reference lap posted in the Skippy forum on iRacing. I saw a 1'19.0 from Spec last night. I certainly can live with my pace here

More important I can run lap after lap with no incident and stay in the 1'20s

Even more important I finally enjoy playing iRacing again

So the reference is mid 18's? Is that alien time, or just respectable? I haven't looked yet. My optimal was a 19 flat, so I've got more time to shave off which I'm looking forward to learning in open practice. Sebring is fun isn't it?

[vkaifh]

the 1'18.5 is from Paul Grillo, a guy with 4700 iR. He expects aliens to get under 1'18:

Paul's comments: T1 is wild - very very bumpy and the car hops and skips through the corner, its very fast, get too much power on entry or exit and you will fly off as the exit the feels really wide but closes fast. Too slow/safe and you will loose tons of time, get the line wrong and you will spin because of the bumps, no "fixing" your line in T1 as unsettling the car here is dangerous Its a great corner to drive and cant wait to race it , tons of room for side by side action. Rest of the course can be attacked, almost all the the kerbs can be used, and the 2nd last corner has an odd line and its tricky to know how far you can take the car into the apex, its also bumpy like T1 on exit.

Would reckon the Aliens will get under 18 with track time, suspect this will be in the "FAST" range - but not knowing the track maybe there is more time.

one last thing , use the CONES as markers , without them this place would be hard... didnt iracing say objects would be moveable at some point ? uh oh

Out of interest I switched to my own setup , didn't really find that much time on my optimum sector times, and was on for a small improvement of 18.5 when I spun....

[SpecMiata-JSW]

Cool, Grillo is a crazy fast alien, so if he's a half second ahead I'm happy. I'm sure with some focus and concentration I can find another 5-6 tenths, especially since I ripped off 3-4 19.0's to 19.2's in a row before I shut it down.

Next week will be fun!

[vkaifh]

I believe it rewarded me the title of 'Club Presidient' of NJ. I didn't get the reward yet but it looks like there are no club points to be earned in week 13.

at myself. I limited my view to Road only and that made me look like the winner with 535 points. Turns out there is someone on the Oval side with over 4,000 points So much for being club president

[group44]

Nice one vk, life is always good with the blinders on

Also, nine myRacers online tonight

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