Re: Seasonal Time Trial #33 - April 4-April 18

**timneyb** Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:41 am

clacksman wrote:
timneyb wrote:
clacksman wrote:Yeah I posted full weight and no engine stages so it doesn't turn into a ballast/limiter deal. Tune should still work.

Oh, I missed that when I updated the OP. I just said "configure the car however you like". Change that, mark non-stock times as such?

Yes please.

Full weight, No engine mods. Suspension, Drivetrain & Aero allowed?

**RackAttack** Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:34 am

clacksman wrote:Yeah I posted full weight and no engine stages so it doesn't turn into a ballast/limiter deal. Tune should still work.

I read your reply to HWK's question and assumed everything was alright... So it's supposed to be stock weight and stock power with tranny, drivetrain, suspension, and GT Auto aero?

Edit: Now I see your post on the other page... Rules gotta be in the OP or they get ignored...

**timneyb** Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:03 pm

RackAttack wrote:
clacksman wrote:Yeah I posted full weight and no engine stages so it doesn't turn into a ballast/limiter deal. Tune should still work.

I read your reply to HWK's question and assumed everything was alright... So it's supposed to be stock weight and stock power with tranny, drivetrain, suspension, and GT Auto aero?

Edit: Now I see your post on the other page... Rules gotta be in the OP or they get ignored...

Yeah, I didn't digest the thread properly as well, and I was editor of OP.

**timneyb** Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:50 pm

So, to clarify for the Deep Forest event.

No weight reductions and no Engine stage modificaitons.
No engine bolt ons or turbos.
(i.e. stock power and weight and 100% limiter)

Suspension, transmission, drivetrain and aero modifications all allowed.

All this correct?
If so I'll update the OP and GTData accordingly.

**clacksman** Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:16 pm

timneyb wrote:So, to clarify for the Deep Forest event.

No weight reductions and no Engine stage modificaitons.
No engine bolt ons or turbos.
(i.e. stock power and weight and 100% limiter)

Suspension, transmission, drivetrain and aero modifications all allowed.

All this correct?
If so I'll update the OP and GTData accordingly.

Most engine bolt-ons are fine, just the turbos and stages are no-go. Rest is krek. Built like that I don't think it gets to 560pp even fully broken-in at max aero (mine is 542pp), thus preventing limiter/ballast use.
Sorry I didn't catch this last night but I was on PS3 browser so couldn't really look at what you put on GTdata.

**RackAttack** Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:19 pm

So mine was ok other than the weight reduce, got it. It was only weight reduced because it was an old TPRA GTS car I think. I'll be breaking one in tonight after the race to add a non-cheater time.

**timneyb** Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:20 pm

clacksman wrote:

Most engine bolt-ons are fine, just the turbos and stages are no-go. Rest is krek. Built like that I don't think it gets to 560pp even fully broken-in at max aero (mine is 542pp), thus preventing limiter/ballast use.
Sorry I didn't catch this last night but I was on PS3 browser so couldn't really look at what you put on GTdata.

Eh, I got all exited because I could use my new toy. SNAFU. Fixing the OP in a minute.

Clear the leaderboard?

**clacksman** Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:23 pm

timneyb wrote:
clacksman wrote:

Most engine bolt-ons are fine, just the turbos and stages are no-go. Rest is krek. Built like that I don't think it gets to 560pp even fully broken-in at max aero (mine is 542pp), thus preventing limiter/ballast use.
Sorry I didn't catch this last night but I was on PS3 browser so couldn't really look at what you put on GTdata.

Eh, I got all exited because I could use my new toy. SNAFU. Fixing the OP in a minute.

Clear the leaderboard?

heh

Yeah if you want, I'll resubmit mine. Just added my time again, with a previously saved tune (ie from five minutes ago), which worked.

**timneyb** Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:24 pm

Also, can I get a HP and PP figure on what a legally configured C 63 makes. I need it to update the GTData side with appropriate numbers.

**timneyb** Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:27 pm

LEADERBOARD HAS BEEN CLEARED. Resubmit your time if it was legal under the clarified settings.

Sorry.

**clacksman** Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:38 pm

timneyb wrote:Also, can I get a HP and PP figure on what a legally configured C 63 makes. I need it to update the GTData side with appropriate numbers.

555hp and 542pp not broken-in. Could just use the 560pp event cap for pp.

edit: I'm back on the board, and on the Mini board as well.

**timneyb** Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:44 pm

clacksman wrote:
timneyb wrote:Also, can I get a HP and PP figure on what a legally configured C 63 makes. I need it to update the GTData side with appropriate numbers.

555hp and 542pp not broken-in. Could just use the 560pp event cap for pp.

edit: I'm back on the board, and on the Mini board as well.

I need to include that so it builds the "dummy tune" with approximately appropriate values.

Also, why not maxing out the mini tune?

**clacksman** Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:47 pm

timneyb wrote:Also, why not maxing out the mini tune?

I thought it was when I ran, wasn't until I was in GTData that I realized it was just bolt-on max & low weight.

**timneyb** Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:52 pm

clacksman wrote:
timneyb wrote:Also, why not maxing out the mini tune?

I thought it was when I ran, wasn't until I was in GTData that I realized it was just bolt-on max & low weight.

lol

**timneyb** Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:55 pm

timneyb wrote:
clacksman wrote:
timneyb wrote:Also, why not maxing out the mini tune?

I thought it was when I ran, wasn't until I was in GTData that I realized it was just bolt-on max & low weight.

lol

Also lol at 3 identical times in your GTData. You can delete any/all of these (your time will stay on the leaderboard, independently of whatever you do in your times and tunes).

**clacksman** Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:57 pm

timneyb wrote:Also lol at 3 identical times in your GTData. You can delete any/all of these (your time will stay on the leaderboard, independently of whatever you do in your times and tunes).

Oh neat. One is from just a regular time entered (outside the event leaderboard thing), one was pre-clearing, and one was after.

**HWKII** Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:21 pm

[Adrian Newey]I'd understood "at stock weight" to be "the car must weigh 1730kg" and dropped it's weight and added back ballast to 1730kg to get the weight distrubtion to 50/50.[/Adrian Newey]

Laughing

**clacksman** Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:35 pm

[Charlie Whiting] We request your presence at FIA headquarters this coming Tuesday.[/Charlie Whiting]

**HWKII** Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:04 pm

clacksman wrote:[Charlie Whiting] We request your presence at FIA headquarters this coming Tuesday.[/Charlie Whiting]

True story: I'm so slow, Sebastian Vettel once called me a cucumber! cheers

**timneyb** Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:32 pm

Leroy is breaking in my Tansanitblau machine at Laguna Seca as I speak.

**RackAttack** Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:41 am

Legal time submitted with a slightly modified tune, but mostly the same. Car is a lot more manageable with the extra ~300kg on it.

**clacksman** Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:48 am

RackAttack wrote:Car is a lot more manageable with the extra ~300kg on it.

**clacksman** Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:35 am

Car received from Rack, broken-in further, added driveshaft and wheels (cheapskate), tweaked a bit. lol @ gap

**clacksman** Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:26 pm

timneyb wrote:Also, can I get a HP and PP figure on what a legally configured C 63 makes. I need it to update the GTData side with appropriate numbers.

Looks like 583hp 527lb-ft 549pp is where it tops out at these rules.

**timneyb** Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:42 pm

clacksman wrote:
timneyb wrote:Also, can I get a HP and PP figure on what a legally configured C 63 makes. I need it to update the GTData side with appropriate numbers.

Looks like 583hp 527lb-ft 549pp is where it tops out at these rules.

Thanks. Dummy tunes and event regulations updated to match.

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