Re: Gran Turismo News and Information

**RackAttack** Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:59 pm

robiker wrote:
RackAttack wrote:

Though, I'm slightly disappointed I can't sell you mine now when I get my CSW

I might be interested.
Just started a new job last week, making lots more money.
Haven't had any trouble with my G25, but it's nearly 3 years old.

Cool, I'll keep you in mind when it comes time. They still haven't announced any CSW details, so I'm waiting as patiently as I can to decide between it and the CSR Elite. I saved the box and everything Very Happy

**group44** Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:43 pm

Forgetful wrote:I am down a few buttons though so I have to figure out new mapping.

Oh how we cry for you lol!

Congrats and hope you get er dialed in soon! Pics to come I hope.

**clacksman** Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:29 pm

GT5 online server maintenance downtime 10-11 PM ish Eastern on Monday the 6th according to their news site.

**Forgetful** Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:10 pm

http://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-5s-next-update-coming-tuesday-february-7/

**clacksman** Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:14 am

Doesn't seem to be anything too spiffy in the update.

Except now the cursor goes to the A-spec box every time you exit GTAuto. Suspect

**Forgetful** Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:23 am

The next GT5 update (2.05), Japan and Asia on the 15th of tomorrow, have planned Europe and America on the 16th. The expectation where stability the online rises.

**HWKII** Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:57 am

The expectation where stability, the online rises! cheers

**clacksman** Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:31 am

Forgetful wrote:the 15th of tomorrow

lousy Smarch weather ...

**Forgetful** Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:52 pm

clacksman wrote:
Forgetful wrote:the 15th of tomorrow

lousy Smarch weather ...

**HWKII** Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:04 pm

Any news on this update and what smexiness it brings? Other, of course, than the online rising where the expectation of stability is?

**clacksman** Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:50 pm

HWKII wrote:Any news on this update and what smexiness it brings? Other, of course, than the online rising where the expectation of stability is?

If there was smexiness we'd have heard about cars or tracks or w/e by now.

**HWKII** Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:51 pm

clacksman wrote:
HWKII wrote:Any news on this update and what smexiness it brings? Other, of course, than the online rising where the expectation of stability is?

If there was smexiness we'd have heard about cars or tracks or w/e by now.

... I was honestly just hoping that Online Free Run Live Qualifying was fixed! drunken

**clacksman** Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:40 am

Update in March includes 'GT5 Photo Stream" - pics you set to 'share' will be semirandomly viewable on a webpage

http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/news/gt5news/d6232.html

**RackAttack** Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:13 pm

HWKII wrote:
... I was honestly just hoping that Online Free Run Live Qualifying was fixed!

How is it broken currently?

**clacksman** Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:47 pm

RackAttack wrote:
HWKII wrote:
... I was honestly just hoping that Online Free Run Live Qualifying was fixed!

How is it broken currently?

Same old untrustworthy ordering.

**clacksman** Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:25 am

25MB update to 2.05 this morning, said only to fix the online Cr & XP rewards issue.

**clacksman** Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:44 am

Maintenance of online services on the 23rd from 9AM to 6PM Eastern.

**Forgetful** Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:58 pm

http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6735896#post6735896

The Suspend/Resume Exploit
This affects all endurance races with variable weather - that's the Suzuka 1000km and the two 24 hour races. There's a number of bugs at play here, some of which we're already familiar with, but ultimately they can be triggered by one thing - suspending an endurance race and then resuming it later.

When you start a weather-change race, the weather is randomly-generated from a large field but it will most commonly settle on 100% wet and raining or 0% wet and clear. A preview will load, the AI cars will tootle round on a demonstration and they will select their tyres accordingly - you, of course, can select your tyres as you choose.

When you pit, you are given the option to Suspend the race. This saves your position as you enter the pits, along with the AI positions and quite a lot of other information (it looks like it adds about 2Mb to your gamesave) and allows you to quit the game.

When you load the game next, it will load up a new preview screen that allows you to Resume where you left off or quit. Here's where the bug surfaces. The new preview screen also randomly loads weather, the AI also tootle round on a demonstration and they also select their tyres based on this - bizarrely, one of the pieces of information that isn't stored in the gamesave is "current tyre grade".

These two images are from two successive Resumes. One shows 0% moisture and not raining - the AI cars on their demonstration ran Racing Hard tyres - and the other shows 100% moisture and not raining - the AI cars on their demonstration ran Racing Wet tyres. In fact the moisture level can be pretty much any value (I've seen the whole spectrum - from 7% through 43% and 83%) but, like the race preview, 0% and 100% are by far the commonest.

When you then Resume the race, all cars are on the tyres they were running in the demonstration (this includes the player car, which has a demo AI run too, but it's irrelevant as you're in the pits...), though the wear levels are retained! So if you're in a completely dry race and Resume with 100% moisture, the AI are now running old Racing Wet tyres that they burn out in a few corners, scrubbing 3 minutes or more off their Ring laptime.

Now, this is player-fixable for the most part. If your race isn't raining and your Resume Preview shows 100% moisture, it will fall - and quickly. Wait for it to reach the right level, Resume and you're golden. No cheating. If your race is raining and your Resume Preview shows 0% moisture, it will rise. Wait for it to reach the right level, Resume and you're golden. Alternatively, quit the game and reboot to get a new moisture level. However, if you're at an unusual level of moisture - say a drying track at 27% or a dampening track at 52% - you're screwed. It is also easily exploitable.

There are variants of this bug - and I experienced several corollary errors during my race - but this is the most basic form. GTP user Chemenu noted something a little different which I can't reconcile easily, but I imagine it's based on a bug within a bug. Emptyone also noted an instance of this bug - which I've confirmed for him.

So the issues at play are:
Tyre grade data not stored
Tyre grade selected at Preview screen (exploitable as seen in the B-Spec Spa Seasonal)
Preview screen conditions not tied to race conditions

Of course the problem is that now, long endurance races cannot be trusted. All it takes is a Suspend and you can win in anything. I Suspended and Resumed the race every three laps to get this quite apparent effect to win in a GT300 car. The cycle went like this:

Lap n: Resume; Leave pits; Pass stricken AI at Aremberg-Kallenhard; AI forced to pit behind me; Acquire 2 minute lead
Lap n+1: Fast lap
Lap n+2: Pit-in; Suspend; Resume and all AI are forced to pit behind me; lead of about a minute
Lap n+3: Leave pits;
Lap n+4: Fast lap; Hold AI up on Dottinger or allow them to pass and pit in their normal, 2 lap cycle
Lap n+5: Hold all AI up and allow past at Dottinger (so that they start a new lap); Pit-in, Suspend

Rinse, lather, repeat.

**clacksman** Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:35 pm

Rinse, lather, repeat is incorrect order. Doesn't anyone read the instructions on shampoo?

Not really GT5 news but sort of affects GT5. PSN maintenance on Thursday, 1 March from 8AM to 10PM eastern. Yes, all day.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/02/27/playstation-network-regular-scheduled-maintenance-on-thursday/

**HWKII** Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:46 pm

So... the above means... you can cheat your way to a big lead in long enduro races?

But... you still have to actually drive for 24h, yes?

It would seem to me that the kind of people who run 24h offline races aren't likely all that interested in cutting corners?

Now, if this was a way to warp ahead in laps:
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**Forgetful** Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:42 pm

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/03/03/playstation-network-scheduled-maintenance-on-sunday/

As you may recall, we had postponed our scheduled PlayStation Network maintenance session from last Thursday to a time to be announced. It is now determined that maintenance will take place tomorrow (Sunday, March 4).
This significant PSN maintenance period is expected to start at just after noon Pacific and will last for several hours, until approximately 2am Pacific on Monday, March 5. Unlike typical maintenance events, consumers who are already signed-in to PSN will be signed-out, and consumers will be unable to sign in for the duration of the maintenance window. During this time, users won’t be able to access the PlayStation Store, PlayStation Home, Account Management or play online. PSN enabled websites will not be able to service users, including this one.
Please stay tuned to the PlayStation Twitter feed for a notice when PSN is fully back online. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

No racing tomorrow Sad